thanks

So there will be a good time having a chance for finishing all Challenges/Tiers.

When the end of the Season of the Inferno? (PC version)

I agree, Protected state gear passives are pointless now. And it's silly to use valuable skill points on the suppression skill tree when you can lose all the benefits the moment you drop out of protected state.

I doubt the suppression protections will help since they're capped at 75%, if I'm reading this change correctly:
"Added Suppression damage reduce affixes, and a 75% hard cap for its maximum value"

Essentially, any build that depended on 100% uptime on "Protected State" is pretty much useless now.
I'm not sure ranged crusader builds are even that worthwhile anymore? I didn't have much luck myself with the zero-crit builds using the Grinder perk. But maybe I was missing some things there.
Regardless, I don't feel like redoing all my gear because they changed the perk.

so i was wondering how the hell you do Tier 3 - Thorough crusade season task aka all keys and all info inside a void crusade in 60min?!?!?!?

This bug needs to be fixed ASAP!

When pressing and holding F for downloading Data in Data Huint Missions, sometimes the Character gets locked into position unable to move, use skills, anything. Only thing that is possible to get, is damage. Which totally can and will break the game. Gamebreaker as it´s called.

It has never, ever been like this before, ever. This needs FIXING ASAP! Important!

but effect on kill always unstable,

should never take place in major source.

the regen from focus spend could be a choice,

but it might not able to keep you in stable proctected

suppresion.

like you said, it might not work with every build.

then we should have reasonable method for each

build. AB2 for every one might not good,

but it only worse if other build have no way to 

handle the problem

suppresion passive tree might better be reworked,

since there are not worthy if it not always active.

your insight of enrage use is actually very valueable.

that is a blind point of my sight.

i am interested with your idea of shotgun build.

are you plan to use man stop ammo all the time?

i do not think triple shot would work with other skill

of shotgun, since they count as aoe rather bullet.

the 10% chance to double damage and heal might

be better than explosive. could worth a try.

wish you have success on your build. it would be

a good inspire

It's Greatsword max crit build with enrage synergies, fully focused around Spinning Blow channeling.

Goes like this: (relic mods and doctrines)

Enrage on crit x1

Enrage on kill  x1

10% damage per enrage token/+1 enrage cost signum x2 (these are crazy powerful with spinning blow)

6% damage per enrage x1

Shock aura while enraged x1

Fear aura while enraged x1

Feared monsters deal 20% less damage x1

16% max hp healed on crit weapon

2% heal per focus point spent armor

2x +50% physical damage doctrine

1x +100% physical damage doctrine

1x +50% phyiscal damage/enemy physical resistance is halved doctrine

It can be improved, but this is what I have now, still looking to get archeotech greatsword with heal on crit mod for example so I can spin faster (no movespeed penalty while spinning)

I think passives should be focused around utility and crit chance mostly, as the lion share of the damage comes from gear anyway. I have heavy investment in crit/aoe/melee/defense trees and moderate in health/debuffs/physical. May revisit my passives, planning to hit 100 on this character during the weekend.

Perks are Feint Mastery, Crisis Management and Stride of the Blessed (the later is riskier... but gotta go fast).

Spinning Blow costs 1 enrage per channel, so you are always on 10 enrage tokens. The same or similar enrage build can work for whatever weapon, and if you want max crit with triple shot doctrine, just pick up a crit chance per enrage item and maybe drop the signums for different mods.

I'm interested to see your build.

The other issue is that the Crusader needed to be the best tank as it is the most "in the teeth of the action" class.  Assassins have a good hit and run dodge mechanic and powerful defensive armour abilities, psykers can stack huge DR (the psychic powers don't seem subject to the caps) and can easily teleport out of danger.  Even the Tech Adept can hide behind their minions.

All these things effectively mitigate damage including suppression damage.

I think a lot of people liked to play the crusader as a "tank and spank".  That just got a lot harder.

There are plenty of way still to deal with supression in endgame. Imo, the easiest being the relic mod on armour that recovers 2% hp and supression per class resource spent, that fullheals you with a single Demolition Armour use.

What I did was picking up Crisis Management + Pain Supression with 16% max hp heal on crit weapon with Area Denial. I have 0 problems with supression since while void crusading doing full key runs. Of course that might not work for every build, but AB2 working for every build was silly. 

There is also Vanquisher of the Vile.

I also started crafting gear for a noncrit shotgun build. Right now I'm done with the weapon, a holy shotgun with "enemies explode on kill dealing +50% base damage" using the +30% base damage doctrine on it with 3 lifegain on hit shards + lifegain on hit and supression on hit roll for a total of 120 life and 60 supression on hit from ONLY that single item. Pair that with tripple shot, I'm hoping that alone can keep me up. With the changed crit strength tresholds, the change to tripple shot, I can see specific noncrit builds being competitve (there actually already were a few, dual bolt pistol and shield charge noncrit could easily deal with +10 content). It is for sure more gear intensive, especially since people won't be able to use their old crit gear. 

If you want to play crit triple shot, it is still doable with an enrage build, actually stronger than before.

Again, I think all the tools are available.

there are still suddenly unreasonable death issue when you face khorne,  also you die like

paper if you have such thing like none-crit build which almost have 0 recover-ability.

if you do not have AB2, then you will drained instantly and screwed, almost no way to

recover your suppression.

so it become 2 choice: completely by pass the suppression check, or

completely have no suppression

we have change like suppression reduction godlike, energy shield, improved

gain on hit now.  idk how it will be,  might a solution, or not.

as long as there are reasonable way to build around it, that will be fine

(actually, if new mechanic is useable, it might benefit tech priest, psyker,

assasin too )

one important part of classical arpg is build, which means your brain

before the battle rather than your finger in battle should play a big role

in it. since we can not re-roll the mission, a avialable build should be

able to face max enemy roll after avoid their strong counter(like disable crit,

or slower cooldown)

slow pace should come with more garrented reward, other wise

it become a long and painful gambit.

i do apperciate your feed back for +10 level mission, this is really

valueable, and that should be the enviroument to test avialability 

of builds. things will get more clear after more performance test

like that.

suppresion skill tree might be come useless if it is hard

to keep suppresion as green, if that so, this skill tree will need

rework.

also, if you like suddenly death, play cat mario, or rouge like game.

or some fps. even average of them, would beat master work of classical

arpg in such sense.

I disagree. The game was very sleepwalky with the old Augmented Body 2. And there are workarounds for dealing with supression damage problems. Also, lets be honest, it's drawback was laughable, barely noticable at all.

I agree with grav weapons being OP, but I would rather nerf those than buff other types.

But that's just my opinion. I like my games to be more challanging. The reason I quit other ARPGs when I reached very late endgame levels was exactly that I could just sleepwalk through the games' hardest content while being completely immortal. The pace was too quick without real challange. I like that Inquisitor has a slower pace, and you need a more tactical approach. 

That said I have not tried Unholy Cathedral since the patch yet, but did void crusades. I actually did die once with the same reckless playstyle that I was used to in a +10ish lvl Ad Mech map that I rolled with way too many bonuses for champions. I was kinda glad about that. After that I adjusted my build accordingly to deal with supression damage. (I played a Greatsword Spinning Blow build btw, at lvl 99 atm)

I think all the necessary tools are avaiable still, sure it's a pain to change your builds that you farmed for, but it keeps things fresh.

And yes, by the way...

Was it not plans for making 1-2 extra Inventory slots available for us to use?

I do remember something like this was at least discussed and mentioned some time back.

I would at least welcome that, if it were made available.

EDIT: Oh yeah, by the way. Clicking Van Wynter´s shop icon for selling all Basic Items does not work, I discovered also.

I did notice something I never experienced before. And this could be a gamebreaker if it´s not properly checked.

In Missions where you are supposed to go download data, or at least where you are supposed to be Holding F down, on some occasions I actually got totally stuck, or you can call it locked position. With this I mean, I could not move in any direction, I could not use any Skills in any way, not move in any direction, I quite simply could not do anything at all. Well, except for taking damage, that is. Could be that I may have hit some other button as well, but not sure.

tbh, none crit build are almost useless,  the build that have much difficult to face red level intel or 10+ difficult crusader mission are not worthy to be consider as avialable, they are just some random meme.  

unless the new heath/supprision on hit and energy shield can make it up, other wise it only make range build even more

weak.(the grav gun and grav pistol is op by the weapon mechanic, especially the armor break/ penetrate issue, nerf triple shot will not solve this, only make other bullet weapon worse)

Regarding the Augmented Body 2 change: I think this was the most important balance change that HAD TO BE DONE. The game was sleepwalking with that perk. Glad you reduced the damage reduction too, it was silly that slapping on an armour and  investing 2 points in the defense tree for skeletal padding capped DR. Now players are actually forced to make choices, and that's what's character building SHOULD be about.

ridiculours,  this change almost ruined the late game, since melee and auto weapon character will be constantly knock back

and slow to death.  only people enjoy this probably are those grav gun users since they just spam the channel ray and slow bubble.  same for the damage reduction. even before people can have stupid suddenly death from random no where.

this is not a choice, it only force player to invest harder in defense, which reduce the possiable choice.

(if you enjoy stupid suddenly death, go play rogue like or cat mario) .

the ammo issue for grenade launcher is already too much, shot gun deal shitty damage vs armor enemy,

heat weapon have too much over heat issue.

add some psm code or enchant to solve those problem could be a good choice

at least solve those problem first, before nerf the good build.

"Triple shot psalm doctrine now gives -30% crit chance instead of -50% damage bonus"

This still doesn't work in game. (this is actually a huge buff for noncrit builds, and even for a crit build that uses a specific combination of relic enhancements)

Please fix this asap, I really want to play around with it :)

Regarding the Augmented Body 2 change: I think this was the most important balance change that HAD TO BE DONE. The game was sleepwalking with that perk. Glad you reduced the damage reduction too, it was silly that slapping on an armour and  investing 2 points in the defense tree for skeletal padding capped DR. Now players are actually forced to make choices, and that's what's character building SHOULD be about.

The only thing I'm missing from the game at this point are boss fights with specific boss mechanic. I mean, I like the chaos knight,  Fabious, and the Great Unclean One (the later two are among my favourite vilians from the lore even), but they are just beefier elites, and with top end builds they just get obliterated in a matter of seconds. I know it's a lot to ask for, but fans can hope. 

Your game has so much potential, and the 40k setting in my opinion is by far the best for any ARPG. I actually abandoned other games of the genre for it completely, I really hope you will keep it alive for a long time, so we can see it develope further and further.

Keep up the great work! 

use heat weapon, but this is the issue:

heat weapon suck, it easily over heat as long as your skill

produce more than 1 heat per second, especially on plasma

cannon. if you can not wipe out enemy with last skill, the basic

shot and fast shot will face serious problem on regular and 

group enemy.  this is even worse on melta, which have very bad

survive ability and very poor performance vs group enemy.

even heavy flamer able to solve such issues, it have 0 armor penetrate,

make it completely fall hard in level 70+  red difficult mission.

the laser gun have same problem with auto gun,

aim skill is not worth to invest, due to its heat cost and slow active

the barage is good, but it kind make rapid and single shot useless,

while it have negative side for high heat cost.

swap weapon? that is even more stupid compare with a good gear

set melee or tech character, especially the extra grinding is costly

since we only have mostly 6 enchante slot, it is stupid to

give more than 2 skill boost rather than focus 1 skill

(flamer could be exception, since non-channel skill is too costly to use

frequently, while channel skill have no benefit from skill cooldown)

i kind want make a bolter/heavy bolter crusader for this season,

but that triple shot nerf is way too heavy and unreasonable,

make bullet weapon kind useless in late game without that

While a nerf Hammer always leaves a shallow taste since it ruins months of effort and millions of credits etc iinvested in a build, anything that makes this much too simple game more challenging is good though. Ofc new gameplay mechanics that make you WANT to change instead of FORCED to would be better.  Crusader especially melee was never the most OP class and the armor nerf hits him  naturally the most, while for range builds idea further reduced the difference  between assasin and crusader except the weapon type choice.

this will decide whether those inferno enchant is a 3 month-only consume item or permant choice of build

The tripple shot doctrine is still the same as it used to be, just tried, as I got pretty excited about that change. Description unchanged as well.

Also I just died first time in... weeks? Like the changes all in all a lot. Augmented Body II was bonkers.

Interesting but did drop chances increase on certain gear, or EXP catch a boost? Making an entire new charector to lvl to 100 as long as it takes, is a bit excessive to ask for mozt of us. 

That asside, the Tech Adept additions are needed and should make for super interesting play. Now- if Tech Adept gear increased not only the tech but all adepts like dmg boosts etc., it may be a bit easier than trying to decide if a certain roll (with now additions to the pool which is why I ask about drop rates)- should be utilized for the adept or constructs- vs. just having the construxta boosted by the same benefits the Adept gets. Either way super awesome to see! 

Unsure how I feel about the Kastelon hlth/dmg nerf, but eh. I only run 2. For those whose entire build runs off of four, it may be a pretty big nerf. Remains to be seen. Would rather if gear boosted our dmg it also boosted the constructs- as it makes builds less complicated worrying about what rolls will be on what gear- but it will make for an interesting experiment on exploding construct swarm builds. 

As an XBox player I have to [insert auestion about console release here]. 

Thanks for all your hard work, awesome to see the game getting love. Hopefully you take a few ideas off my other posts for future updates. Extra storylines involving Orks and Tau in a crusade like atmosphere would be super interesting- especially since the more Orks fight the stronger they get (and toughness gets harder per level with warzones/can get harder by choice with progression in crusades. And that would fit with the 40k lore soooo wellll. :) 

Plus ya know extra story and playable classes fit really well aith this style game in a 40k lore co text too. The game can only get better! <3