I totally agree that this is a problem,

but it is already much less severe than in alpha, where normal missions gave you so insanely little xp that tarot missions were your one and only way of leveling, besides the campaign ofc.

At the moment, the only way I can see myself leveling further is checking the store every hour for the new 'Meme Virus' 100% xp boost and using it on impossible difficulty Tarot missions. Anything other than that is too much time and effort for what is currently very little, to almost no reward. It's clear something needs to be done.

I´m not even close to Level 50 yet. But getting there, slowly. I will be Lvl 50 till next week.

If u reach lvl 50 after 10h there would be too much posts like “reached max level, what now?“ 

Why everyone think its a race?  :-(

Just slow down and enjoy the purge .... :-)

In my optinion its not even slow enought. To gain a lvl should be something special. But there is nothing special when u dont need time for it.

Remember for example in Classic WoW the first mount... it costs months!!!! But it was a very good feeling if u finally got it. Nowadays its worthless and nothing special. 

for a long long time ago, where i was yung i played dark age of camelot. the first mmorpg. and i need 12 months with my runemaster to reach 50 :D

i will dont have the "diablo effekt" i have played for an while and it was fun, but was quick on a point where iot was very boring.

go in a grater rift> collekt the same stuff in better than yet> make a grater grater rift> collekt the same stuff in better than yet>go in a grater grater rift>.......

at one point i say : okay.. make another thing with other stuff and skills. and i seee..... it dont works because diablo say to me: nooooo you must have that and that stuff to make the challunge...

that is the point i like martyr. online events, every weapon (so every skill) is in any option good and works. investigations with different races and it will become more.

i say not: määähh im not 50.

 i say: hmmmm what i will do today.

As for the fate farm what is the gain you earn for running grey missions in a system you are way over power lvl for?

You should still earn between 5-8 Fate for a mission at PL150 even if you are PL900 afaik, these can be rushed in less than 3 min lowering the time taken to get to running that 100 fate needed for the XP from Tarot.

Agreed not the best gains in xp from regular missions doing it this way though.

I'll leave this here for you too bud might help having it shown as well as talked through for the current leveling system. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1qBqyswBUs

Hail Hydra!

Well, if you play Tarot missions on "Impossible"-Mode + 100% XP buff for the next 5 missions, you will get 10K+ XP depending on your current lvl and gear score. (With a psyker and AoE it was pretty easy for most of the missions.)

And regarding XP pts or Rank pts as it´s called, doesn´t change whether you play on Normal or Impossible Mode. If the Mission is giving you 545 Rank pts, you GET 545 Rank pts whether you play Normal or Impossible. The only difference in Difficulties change is the pts of Fate, Cash and Glory you will receive. Nothing else. The only exception is of course if you have that 100% XP Boost.

But the thing I wonder about is... Do you get MORE experience if you are playing in a Group? Or does it not matter whether you´re in a group or alone?

totally get what you mean Nalchal :D there are many games where I really enjoyed the leveling process. In all honesty, I usually prefer the leveling process over "end game" repetition. I have severe alt-itis, and I usually have 10+ toons before my first one hits level cap, just to enjoy the story and try new builds.

However, this game feel different, and I think allot of it has to do with the fact that outside of your unlocks with each level, nothing in-between level 5 or so and level 50 feels interesting. The gear is somewhat irrelevant...you simply equip whatever has the best power level and move on. I've kept a few pieces for X resist or Y stat, but eventually the need for power points outweighs the benefit of a random stat.

Crafting could be fun, but again, unless your salvaging components, gaining materials is slow. base materials comes pretty fast, but most of the base crafted items aren't any better then the greens you find on missions. Sure, it may be the one gear type i want, and I have done this a few times so far, but it doesn't spark me as "oh boy, i get to craft some more!" it's more like, "meh, i guess i should craft another X. Mine is about 5 power levels too low". Most the decent recipes cost materials that simply aren't dropping for me, and to salvage the items necessary I would lose out on fate points from selling them (one of the bad parts of the gearing system). Should I mention how rare getting those purple recipes is? not a bad thing to look forward to, but when they still have little impact on leveling...

The only thing to really look forward to is the story and missions. and in spite of how much I enjoy the interesting art and areas, they do eventually get repetetive, and the current story only goes so far. Perhaps once the seasons start opening up there will be more story to give us something to look foward to. But currently the game itself seems very weighted towards end game, and it makes the trip there feel very tedius and honestly boring at times. And this is coming from a guy that has severe alt-itis and normally enjoys leveling new alts! when you combine that with the speed of leveling, it feels like a chore instead of an enjoyable thing. And I usually enjoy that chore, just not here.

Get item: Meme Virus

Get: 110 Fate

Then go tarot max dificulty or pre max...  1/3 exp bar per run, clear all mobs per map.

I made an account just so I could reply to this.

As long as you have story missions the leveling is fine and you feel like you are advancing. 

But after that it's just painful. Why do you want players to play un rewarding missions just to get to stuff that advances your character? It doesn't make sense. 

I understand longevity but I'm a grown man, I don't have time to grind for hours for a marginal increase in progress. That feels like you don't respect my time. 

I bought the game, I love playing it but seriously. 

You said yourself you want to support it for 2 years, which is not long enough imo. But the point is, this is not an MMO. Don't make me grind for months and shorten the time I would be able to experience your seasonal content. 

Thank you. 

SIde note: we shouldn't have to waste all our Fate just to level at a decent speed. Those should be something you do above and beyond. I'd prefer XP to be higher on the side missions and less XP in Tarot runs, but more loot in the Tarot. Tarot should be what you do for high end loot farming, not just so you can level w/o making your eyes bleed.

Did this with my melee Crusader, no problem at all with Nurgle missions.

BUT

I'm in my mid thirties and so tired. Go PL +500 (800 and go 1300) missions and get ridiculous 200 extra points - 600+ per mission.The event missions are green and give 400 points per mission. I'm sorry but I'm working. I've been longing for this game as a hobby. However, the crawl through the levels is not "relaxing" in the constant repetition. Grinding for the perfect equipment, the best item, the super special recipe, no thing and perfectly fine. But to leveling bread crumbs as a reward for daylong repetition? You can certainly improve that somehow.