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So came back to play some more after the addition of the assassin and I quite like how she plays overall. Makes me even more excited to see what happens with the Psyker as, of the 3, it's the one I'm most interested in.

I would prefer if her dodge wasn't directional based on the button presses but if instead we could have her dodge in the mouse direction when you press "Q" or some similar key. With the directions available and the challenges provided by the camera I often find it difficult to make good use of the ability or mashing buttons that don't have a direction associated with them. 

While I understand ranges cannot be 'realistic' in this type of game I do think that sniper rifles overall have too short of a range. It feels weird to me that an autogun and a sniper rifle have similar (same?) ranges. 

I also could not make good use of stealth. I'm not sure if I missed something but you can't use it to disengage from combat and whenever I try to sneak up and initiate at close range the enemies just opened fire as soon as I was nearby. Honestly I found I didn't need or really want to use any of the assassins abilities, though I can see a lot of value in the time distortion field for a melee 'sin.

I do hope that activating items like shields or clicking "clue" consoles will have more of a notification that they worked, whether it be animations, sounds or both. Sometimes forget to check the CD timer or the mission tab and am unsure if the item worked.

There was another thread here about more contrast to get enemies and your character to stand out more from the background which I think is extremely accurate. I think the scale and design are great but can't help feeling it looks a little dull a lot of the time - especially the interiors.

I wish zooming in and out rotated the camera into more of an 'over the shoulder' view. I feel extremely limited by the directly vertical movement and want to be able to zoom in a bit to be able to better shoot through doorways (etc.) that are making it hard to see.

Also, realizing it's still Alpha but a lot of systems go unexplained. I still am uncertain what Fate does, why I care about Glory, how to gain attributes - i.e. is it only through challenges or are there other ways ;; are challenges account or character based. I have no idea what the Diamond or Skulls are for the investigations or what the bars for chance of success/collateral damage are all about. Why would I want to shoot feet or hands with Aimed Shot instead of their head?

I'm assuming the Nurgle daemons/Marines/Cultists are placeholders for others - I was a bit surprised that my investigation into a pleasure cult by "pseudo-orgasmic triangulation" (as the game stated) led me to fight more Nurgle monsters and not Slaanesh


Some bugs I've found:

- alt+tab causes a system crash.

- Not sure what did it but partway through a mission today the sound started to crackle and distort. At first I thought it was the headphones (wireless) but after I turned them off it continued through the speakers. When I finished the mission it didn't happen on the ship but continued when I started the next mission. 

- not sure if bug or intended but Needler AoE doesn't explode at max range if it misses. 

- Aimed shot sometimes fires prematurely when holding down the key to charge it; at times it can be difficult to select the field you want to hit.


I do want to say that I really like the fluff present in the game so far. I was horribly disappointed by the jumping hammer helicopter terminator(s) in DOW3 and feel like this game does a better job of representing the source material. Things like the no male death cult 'sin in another thread or that CSM are huge compared to the cultists around them are great to see. I'm still not sure about a non-space marine inquisitor (or even if he was) taking on a whole chaos cult but that's just the style of game it is.

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1 year 100 days ago
Thanks for all the feedback/reports guys, this was indeed useful for us. We'll get to work :)
1 year 100 days ago
Martoq

Have you tried wasd for dodge? - It's where your hand would naturally rest on the keyboard anyway and honeslty couldn't feel any more natural to use in order to dodge. (imho)

1 year 100 days ago
fiyga

I too hope they change dodge too use one key and go in the direction of the mouse cursor. It is just too many buttons too dodge. I also find the difficulty frustrating, the bad control on the assassin just makes it worse. Also where is the blasted ability to toggle cover? I have messed up hands and would love not to have too hold a key down to stay in cover.

This comment was edited 1 year 100 days ago by Martoq
1 year 100 days ago

as for enemy health scaling for co op - it does. Not sure where the notion came from that it doesn't, but wit 4 players killing a marine takes a loooong time. 


re difficulty system.. there is one... it's going against a higher power level than you currently are. Which fulfils the exact same role as a difficulty system as the loot is the same. Only the experience differs.

1 year 100 days ago
ElizLestrad

if you honestly believe that single player missions are impossible then it might not be the game that is at fault here. I feel like you are exaggerating the difficulty about 10x more than it actually is. 


It is true that some people are currently struggling with the game, but it's garbage to presume that everyone else is finding the game as difficult as you are. I have an entire cabal of 20 people who have made new characters (without spending money) and managed to level characters. Admittedly they are mostly experienced arpg players.



1 year 100 days ago
fiyga

First off, as far as I am concerned the game looks beautiful.  Movement and combat animations do feel a tad clunky compared to the fluidity of similar games like Diablo or Viking: Wolves of Midgard, but the game is beautiful.


It is however waaaaaay over the acceptable limit of difficulty.  Especially considering many of the mission descriptions and all of the mission level ratings don't have any bearing on the actual missions.  This is, strictly speaking, only in terms of playing the game solo.  Yet it is obvious from the continues and now completely expected triple death at the very first encounter that solo play has not been considered at all when setting the difficulty of the missions.  Especially when you take away mob XP. 


So now, if you want to actually play test the game you can't.  Before the only way to make any sort of headway was off the combat XP because you couldn't actually complete the mission.  Now when you die, instead of at least getting something out of it and the hope that you actually leveled up this time making the possibility of mission failure less, there's no incentive.  You can die or fail missions as much as you want, but you'll never level up so you will be stuck in the same position as you were.


Players should not be FORCED to co-op in order to play(test) a game.


Difficulty is currently the biggest problem with the game.  Its too absurdly difficult and there is not enough factual, honest information in the briefing to actually inform the player what they are getting into.  A mission level difficulty of 1 being selected by a level 1 player should NOT have a "chances of survival" rating of "very low".  A level 2 or 3 mission, yes, but there are no actual missions suitable for a level 1 character solo.


Every single mission needs to be reworked\re-balanced and the briefings redone to better reflect, in an honest manner, how difficult the mission actually is.  On top of this, given that this game has one fixed difficulty setting (instead of games like Diablo with easy, normal, hard, brutal, etc.), the difficulty needs to scale with the number of players in the game as seen in games like (Viking: Wolves of Midgard).  This should include enemy health, damage output, and defense, with 1 player being the default stats and enemies getting small buffs as the number of players increase.


Simply put, this game needs to make vast improvements to make itself playable in solo.  Because right now, it's not playable at all.


Oh, and the game consistently crashes on exit.  Might want to look into that.

This comment was edited 1 year 100 days ago by ElizLestrad
1 year 100 days ago

don't worry on the double post, it happens.


as for "Also, realizing it's still Alpha but a lot of systems go unexplained. I still am uncertain what Fate does, why I care about Glory, how to gain attributes - i.e. is it only through challenges or are there other ways ;; are challenges account or character based. I have no idea what the Diamond or Skulls are for the investigations or what the bars for chance of success/collateral damage are all about. Why would I want to shoot feet or hands with Aimed Shot instead of their head?" - Let me help


Fate is used to go on tarrot missions (mission crafting)

Glory is something you collect each week that gives you some fate and other rewards.
Diamond skulls and investigation choices will eventually be related to a morality system

(eventually) when decapitation is implemented then shooting an arm will remove it and disable an ability, shooting a head will just damage.

1 year 100 days ago

Sorry about the double post not sure how it happened!